Showing posts with label top 100 albums of all time. Show all posts
Showing posts with label top 100 albums of all time. Show all posts

Saturday, January 11, 2014

Sales v critics v fans 3.3: Fans top 100 albums of all time - years

Here's the chart for the fans top 100 albums of all time. (Click to enlarge.)



The structure is similar to the critics chart - but even more concentrated in the golden era. In the critics chart 1968 and 1971 were the biggest years with 6 entries each. Those are also big years for the fans with 7 and 8 entries respectively. But the biggest year is 1969 - with 10 entries!


Rank Artist Album

5 The Beatles  Abbey Road
7 King Crimson  In the Court of the Crimson King
40 Led Zeppelin  Led Zeppelin
44 Led Zeppelin  Led Zeppelin II
51 The Velvet Underground  The Velvet Underground
60 Miles Davis  In a Silent Way
67 The Rolling Stones  Let It Bleed
74 Nick Drake  Five Leaves Left
81 Neil Young Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
84 Frank Zappa  Hot Rats

This is by far the oldest chart - the median release date is 1971! (vs 1977 for the critics and 1987 for sales)

There are only 4 entries from 2000 and beyond - two of them belonging to Radiohead. The latest entry is In Rainbows in 2007. No Adele.

On the face of it, this could suggest the fans on RYM are older and more conservative than the critics or the record buying public. But that theory is shot down when you look at the charts for recent years on RYM. The preponderance of death metal, speed metal, shoegaze, etc suggests this is not an old audience. Maybe the oldies on RYM just outnumber the youngsters - so the old stuff tends to get more votes than the new stuff? But then how to explain the popularity of Radiohead? Maybe Radiohead just has the greatness to cross demographic boundaries and appeals to the oldies as well as the kids. Maybe they don't make 'em like they used to, but Radiohead is a rare exception - a genuinely great band that will stand the test of time.

Wednesday, January 8, 2014

Sales v critics v fans 3.2: Fans top 100 albums of all time - artists

What artists do the fans like - and how does that compare with the critics' and best seller lists?

The fans list is more concentrated than the other list. 64 entries come from artists with two or more entries vs 51 for the sales chart and 34 for the critics. That kinda makes sense - you'd expect critics to have more diverse interest than fans or record buyers. But I was surprised that the fans were more concentrated than the sales data.

The list of top 100 albums of all time as voted by the fans is here.


1. The Beatles - 6 entries

Despite being deposed from the top slots by Radiohead and Pink Floyd, the Beatles still have the most entries. I suppose they must be ok.

The order is different - but the albums are the same as the critics, except the fans substitute Magical Mystery Tour for Please Please Me. Hard to pass up one of the greatest pieces of psychedelia of all time.

Abbey Road
Revolver
Sgt Pepper
White Album
Rubber Soul
Magical Mystery Tour


2.= Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd - 5 entries

The fans really like their Pink Floyd! The critics gave the nod to only 1 Floyd album, which seems like a travesty. The best seller list had 3.

Bob Dylan
Blood on the Tracks
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde on Blonde
Bringing it All Back Home
The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan

Pink Floyd
Dark Side of the Moon (#2 Overall)
Wish You Were Here
Animals
Piper At the Gates of Dawn
Meddle


4.= Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, Radiohead, The Rolling Stones - 4 entries

I like the elevation of Neil Young and Radiohead. Compared with the sales chart, the fans drop Houses of the Holy and add Lep Zep I and III.

Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin IV
Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin II
Led Zeppelin III

Neil Young
After the Gold Rush
On the Beach
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
Harvest

Radiohead
OK Computer (#1 Overall)
Kid A
The Bends
In Rainbows

The Rolling Stones
Sticky Fingers
Let It Bleed
Exile on Main Street
Beggars Banquet


8.= Black Sabbath, David Bowie, Miles Davis, Velvet Underground - 3 entries

Yes, yes, yes and yes!

Black Sabbath
Paranoid
Black Sabbath
Master of Reality

David Bowie
Ziggy Stardust
Low
Hunky Dory

Miles Davis
Kind of Blue
In a Silent Way
Betches Brew

The Velvet Underground
The Velvet Underground & Nico (#3 Overall)
The Velvet Underground
White Light/White Heat


12.= Charles Mingus, Godspeed You Black Emperor!, John Coltrane, Joy Division, King Crimson, Metallica, Nick Drake, Pixies, Talk Talk, The Jimi Hendrix Experience - 2 entries

What a diverse group!


Everyone else - 1 entry


A Tribe Called Quest 
Arcade Fire 
Can 
Creedence Clearwater Revival 
DJ Shadow 
Elliott Smith 
Frank Zappa 
Genius/GZA 
Leonard Cohen 
Love 
Marvin Gaye 
Megadeth 
My Bloody Valentine 
Nas 
Neutral Milk Hotel 
Nirvana 
Portishead 
Sigur Rós 
Slayer 
Slint 
Sonic Youth 
Talking Heads 
Television 
The Beach Boys 
The Clash 
The Cure 
The Doors 
The Kinks 
The Smiths 
The Stooges 
The Who 
The Zombies 
Tom Waits 
Van Morrison 
Wu-Tang Clan 
Yes 

Monday, January 6, 2014

Sales v critics v fans 3.1: Fans top 100 albums of all time

No we turn our attention to the fans top 100 albums of all time, as represented by Rate Your Music in early January, 2014.

The critics top 100 is here and the top 100 by sales is here.

Good news for Radiohead and Pink Floyd fans.


Rank Artist Album Year
1 Radiohead  OK Computer 1997
2 Pink Floyd  The Dark Side of the Moon 1973
3 The Velvet Underground & Nico  The Velvet Underground & Nico 1967
4 Pink Floyd  Wish You Were Here 1975
5 The Beatles  Abbey Road 1969
6 The Beatles  Revolver 1966
7 King Crimson  In the Court of the Crimson King 1969
8 Radiohead  Kid A 2000
9 Led Zeppelin  Led Zeppelin [IV] 1971
10 Miles Davis  Kind of Blue 1959
11 My Bloody Valentine  Loveless 1991
12 Bob Dylan  Highway 61 Revisited 1965
13 John Coltrane  A Love Supreme 1965
14 David Bowie  The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars 1972
15 Black Sabbath  Paranoid 1970
16 Pixies  Doolittle 1989
17 The Beach Boys  Pet Sounds 1966
18 The Beatles  Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 1967
19 The Doors  The Doors 1967
20 Joy Division  Unknown Pleasures 1979
21 The Clash  London Calling 1979
22 The Beatles  The Beatles [White Album] 1968
23 The Smiths  The Queen Is Dead 1986
24 Nick Drake  Pink Moon 1972
25 Bob Dylan  Blonde on Blonde 1966
26 The Jimi Hendrix Experience  Are You Experienced 1967
27 Talking Heads  Remain in Light 1980
28 Charles Mingus  The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady 1963
29 Television  Marquee Moon 1977
30 Arcade Fire  Funeral 2004
31 Joy Division  Closer 1980
32 Neutral Milk Hotel  In the Aeroplane Over the Sea 1998
33 Pink Floyd  Animals 1977
34 Bob Dylan  Blood on the Tracks 1975
35 The Beatles  Rubber Soul 1965
36 Bob Dylan  Bringing It All Back Home 1965
37 Sonic Youth  Daydream Nation 1988
38 Godspeed You Black Emperor!  Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven! 2000
39 Neil Young  After the Gold Rush 1970
40 Led Zeppelin  Led Zeppelin 1969
41 Nirvana  Nevermind 1991
42 Metallica  Master of Puppets 1986
43 Wu-Tang Clan  Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 1993
44 Led Zeppelin  Led Zeppelin II 1969
45 King Crimson  Red 1974
46 Radiohead  The Bends 1995
47 The Jimi Hendrix Experience  Electric Ladyland 1968
48 Tom Waits  Rain Dogs 1985
49 Sigur Rós  Ágætis byrjun 1999
50 Leonard Cohen  Songs of Leonard Cohen 1967
51 The Velvet Underground  The Velvet Underground 1969
52 David Bowie  Low 1977
53 The Who  Who's Next 1971
54 Black Sabbath  Black Sabbath 1970
55 The Cure  Disintegration 1989
56 Black Sabbath  Master of Reality 1971
57 The Rolling Stones  Sticky Fingers 1971
58 The Stooges  Fun House 1970
59 Nas  Illmatic 1994
60 Miles Davis  In a Silent Way 1969
61 Love  Forever Changes 1967
62 Metallica  Ride the Lightning 1984
63 Portishead  Dummy 1994
64 DJ Shadow  Endtroducing..... 1996
65 The Zombies  Odessey and Oracle 1968
66 David Bowie  Hunky Dory 1971
67 The Rolling Stones  Let It Bleed 1969
68 Godspeed You Black Emperor!  F♯A♯∞ (1995-1997) 1997
69 Radiohead  In Rainbows 2007
70 The Beatles  Magical Mystery Tour 1967
71 Miles Davis  Bitches Brew 1970
72 Can  Tago Mago 1971
73 Yes  Close to the Edge 1972
74 Nick Drake  Five Leaves Left 1969
75 The Velvet Underground  White Light / White Heat 1968
76 Genius/GZA  Liquid Swords 1995
77 Neil Young  On the Beach 1974
78 Pixies  Surfer Rosa 1988
79 The Rolling Stones  Exile on Main St. 1972
80 The Kinks  The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Societ 1968
81 Neil Young with Crazy Horse  Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 1969
82 Slint  Spiderland 1991
83 Pink Floyd  The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 1967
84 Frank Zappa  Hot Rats 1969
85 Marvin Gaye  What's Going On 1971
86 The Rolling Stones  Beggars Banquet 1968
87 Pink Floyd  Meddle 1971
88 Neil Young  Harvest 1972
89 Megadeth  Rust in Peace 1990
90 Talk Talk  Spirit of Eden 1988
91 Charles Mingus  Mingus Ah Um 1959
92 Slayer  Reign in Blood 1986
93 Van Morrison  Astral Weeks 1968
94 Bob Dylan  The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan 1963
95 Talk Talk  Laughing Stock 1991
96 Led Zeppelin  Led Zeppelin III 1970
97 John Coltrane  Giant Steps 1960
98 Creedence Clearwater Revival  Cosmo's Factory 1970
99 Elliott Smith  Either/Or 1997
100 A Tribe Called Quest  The Low End Theory 1991

Saturday, January 4, 2014

Sales v critics v fans 2.4: Critics top 100 albums of all time - decades

The critics' chart showing entries in their top 100 albums of all time by decade is nearly the reverse of the sales chart.





  • The golden era of 60s and 70s has the most entries, accounting for over half the total.
  • There is a downward trend since then - forestalled by a minor resurgence in the 90s.
The album as an art form might not be dead, but it is not in the most robust of health either.

Thursday, January 2, 2014

Sales v critics v fans 2.3: Critics top 100 albums of all time - years

Which years were most prolific according to critics, based on their top 100 albums of all time?

The chart tells the story (click to enlarge):



This is very different to the sales chart, with the biggest group of releases coming in the period 1965-1973.
  • The first entry is older than the sales chart - 1959 - Miles Davis with Kind of Blue. Still no Sinatra. 
  • The biggest years are 1968 and 1971, each with 6 entries:
1968
Aretha Franklin Lady Soul
The Band Music From Big Pink
Johnny Cash At Folsom Prison
The Beatles The Beatles (White Album)
The Rolling Stones Beggars Banquet
Van Morrison Astral Weeks

1971
Carole King Tapestry
David Bowie Hunky Dory
Joni Mitchell Blue
Marvin Gaye What's Going On
The Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers
The Who Who's Next

  • The median is 1977 - ten years older than the sales list. 
  • The 2000s are not as barren as in the sales list - there are seven entries after 2001, including two in 2011 - 21 by Adele, and the wonderful Let England Shake by PJ Harvey. There are 12 entries from 2000 and beyond.
The age of the blockbuster album may be pretty well over from a sales perspective - but as a creative form it is still far from dead.




Tuesday, December 31, 2013

Sales v critics v fans 2.2: Critics top 100 albums of all time - artists

What artists do the critics like - and how does that compare with the best seller list?

Unsurprisingly, the critics are not as enamoured with soundtracks as the album buying public. In fact there are no soundtracks on the critics list. Another difference - there are very few greatest hits collections or anthologies in the critics list.

1. The Beatles - 6 entries

No surprise that the Beatles are #1 - but Please Please Me is an interesting inclusion.

Revolver (#1 overall)
White Album (#2 overall)
Abbey Road
Rubber Soul
Sgt Pepper
Please Please Me


2. The Rolling Stones - 5 entries

A fitting acknowledgement of an incredible creative period from 1968 to 1978

Exile on Main Street (#3 overall)
Beggars Banquet
Let It Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Some Girls


3. Bob Dylan - 4 entries

Another incredible creative decade - from 1965 to 1975

Blood on the Tracks
Highway 61 Revisited
Blonde on Blonde
Bringing it All Back Home


4. David Bowie - 3 entries

Ziggy Stardust
Hunky Dory
Low


5.= - 2 entries

Now things really open up...

Blur, Elvis Presley, Joy Division, Michael Jackson, Nirvana, The Band, The Clash, U2


Everyone else - 1 entry

Some very worthy inclusions here. Surprising that Led Zep, Floyd, Radiohead, Neil Young don't record more entries. Tall poppy syndrome?

AC/DC
Adele
Al Green
Amy Winehouse
Arcade Fire
Arctic Monkeys
Aretha Franklin
Beastie Boys
Bob Marley and the Wailers
Bruce Springsteen
Carole King
Chuck Berry
Daft Punk
Doors
Dusty Springfield
Eagles
Eminem
Fleetwood Mac
Guns N' Roses
James Brown
Jay-Z
Jimi Hendrix Experience
John Lennon
Johnny Cash
Joni Mitchell
Kanye West
Lauryn Hill
LCD Soundsystem
Led Zeppelin
Love
Marvin Gaye
Miles Davis
Muddy Waters
My Bloody Valentine
Nas
Neil Young
Oasis
Otis Redding
Patti Smith
Paul Simon
Pink Floyd
Pixies
PJ Harvey
Primal Scream
Prince and the Revolution
Public Enemy
Pulp
Radiohead
Ramones
Robert Johnson
Sly and the Family Stone
Sonic Youth
Stevie Wonder
Suede
Talking Heads
Television
The Beach Boys
The Notorious B.I.G.
The Sex Pistols
The Smiths
The Stone Roses
The Strokes
The Velvet Underground & Nico
The Who
Van Morrison
Wu-Tang Clan

Monday, December 30, 2013

Sales v critics v fans 2.1: Critics top 100 albums of all time

Now its time to shift our focus to the critics.

I started with the top 100 from the Rolling Stone 500 which was compiled in 2009.

"The RS 500 was assembled by the editors of Rolling Stone, based on the results of two extensive polls. In 2003, Rolling Stone asked a panel of 271 artists, producers, industry executives and journalists to pick the greatest albums of all time. In 2009, we asked a similar group of 100 experts to pick the best albums of the 2000s. From those results, Rolling Stone created this new list of the greatest albums of all time."

I combined this with lists published in 2013 by New Musical Express and Entertainment Weekly to create my own meta-list.



Rank Artist Album Year
1 The Beatles Revolver 1966
2 The Beatles The Beatles (White Album) 1968
3 The Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street 1972
4 The Beach Boys Pet Sounds 1966
5 Nirvana Nevermind 1991
6 Marvin Gaye What's Going On 1971
7 The Clash London Calling 1979
8 The Velvet Underground The Velvet Underground & Nico 1967
9 Bob Dylan Blood on the Tracks 1975
10 The Beatles Abbey Road 1969
11 Stevie Wonder Innervisions 1973
12 David Bowie Ziggy Stardust 1972
13 The Beatles Rubber Soul 1965
14 Bob Dylan Highway 61 Revisited 1965
15 Joni Mitchell Blue 1971
16 Fleetwood Mac Rumours 1977
17 Bruce Springsteen Born to Run 1975
18 Michael Jackson Thriller 1982
19 Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 2010
20 Public Enemy It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back 1988
21 Patti Smith Horses 1975
22 Jimi Hendrix Experience Are You Experienced 1967
23 Love Forever Changes 1967
24 The Smiths The Queen is Dead 1986
25 John Lennon Plastic Ono Band 1970
26 Wu-Tang Clan Enter the Wu-Tang 1993
27 Radiohead OK Computer 1997
28 The Who Who's Next 1971
29 Prince and the Revolution Purple Rain 1984
30 Arcade Fire Funeral 2004
31 Bob Dylan Blonde on Blonde 1966
32 The Rolling Stones Beggars Banquet 1968
33 Chuck Berry The Great Twenty-Eight 1982
34 The Sex Pistols Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols 1977
35 The Rolling Stones Let it Bleed 1969
36 U2 Achtung Baby 1991
37 Van Morrison Astral Weeks 1968
38 The Beatles Sgt Pepper's Lonely hearts Club Band 1967
39 Paul Simon Graceland 1986
40 Pixies Doolitle 1989
41 Miles Davis Kind of Blue 1959
42 Aretha Franklin Lady Soul 1968
43 Television Marquee Moon 1977
44 Guns N' Roses Appetite for Destruction 1987
45 My Bloody Valentine Loveless 1991
46 Neil Young After the Gold Rush 1970
47 LCD Soundsystem Sound of Silver 2007
48 Daft Punk Discovery 2001
49 Johnny Cash At Folsom Prison 1968
50 Amy Winehouse Back to Black 2006
51 Bob Dylan Bringing it all Back Home 1965
52 David Bowie Hunky Dory 1971
53 Beastie Boys Paul's Boutique 1989
54 The Strokes Is This It 2001
55 Pulp Different Class 1995
56 Otis Redding Otis Blue 1965
57 The Stone Roses The Stone Roses 1989
58 Sonic Youth Daydream Nation 1988
59 Oasis Definitely Maybe 1994
60 Michael Jackson Off the Wall 1979
61 Elvis Presley The Sun Sessions 1999
62 Sly and the Family Stone Greatest Hits 1970
63 David Bowie Low 1977
64 PJ Harvey Let England Shake 2011
65 Joy Division Closer 1980
66 Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill 1998
67 Elvis Presley Sunrise (Anthology) 1999
68 Carole King Tapestry 1971
69 Adele 21 2011
70 The Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers 1971
71 AC/DC Back in Black 1980
72 Al Green Call Me 1973
73 Arctic Monkeys Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006
74 Robert Johnson The Complete Recordings 1990
75 Blur Parklife 1994
76 James Brown Live at the Apollo 1963
77 Bob Marley and the Wailers Catch a Fire 1973
78 The Band The Band 1969
79 U2 The Joshua Tree 1987
80 Primal Scream Screamadelica 1991
81 Nas Illimatic 1994
82 Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin 1969
83 Talking Heads Remain in Light 1980
84 Suede Dog Man Star 1994
85 The Notorious B.I.G. Ready to Die 1994
86 Ramones Ramones 1976
87 Blur Modern Life is Rubbish 1993
88 Band Music From Big Pink 1968
89 Dusty Springfield Dusty in Memphis 1969
90 The Rolling Stones Some Girls 1978
91 Nirvana In Utero 1993
92 Jay-Z The Blueprint 2001
93 Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon 1973
94 Eagles Hotel California 1976
95 Muddy Waters The Anthology 2001
96 The Beatles Please Please Me 1963
97 Joy Division Unknown Pleasures 1979
98 The Clash The Clash 1977
99 Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP 2000
100 Doors The Doors 1967